This actually works in practice. Alles Stock, PBO Auto - 538 Punkte Allcore OC, PBO Aus 4050Mhz, 1,200VID - 496 Punkte Orientierung bieten folgen Werte für Frequenz und VID (leider gehört mein 3900X … because i need many sata ports and i have to choose x570 from asus. The next part is now really easy. It’s even smaller with the 3600 on the Gigabyte board. We moderate comments on a ~24~48 hour cycle. Kann ich die CPU Manuell etwas … The 3900X is compatible with AMD’s older 300-series chipset with a BIOS update, while the 5900X is only supported by 500-series chipsets and 400-series (with a BIOS update). Especially in games. We began with an R5 3600 on the Gigabyte Aorus Master (used for our Ryzen 3000 reviews) and the MSI Godlike, reasoning that the most power-hungry sample chip we had with the lowest stock clocks would benefit the most from removing current limitations. With PBO or especially with Auto Overclocking the CPU gets way too much voltage whacked into it, and TSMC recommends 1.3 Volts as a maximum for its 7nm node and that's where I drew the line.Above that you just run into ever diminishing returns and you end up with a lot more heat than a higher score can justify.You also have to realise that silicon lottery is a thing, and I would be interested how far you could push your CPU manually if you limited it to 1.3 Volts.The thing is that I have gotten really cheesed off with so-called Ryzen configuration articles that are based on specific motherboards and BIOS and decided to write something that is useful to EVERYONE. The improvement from PBO off to PBO/AutoOC on with the 3900X and a CLC on the MSI board was a whopping 2.4%, and 1.5% on air. Try it but I’ve only got one CPU this works well on. If anything is unclear then please feel free to ask. Thread starter kilroy67; Start date Aug 7, 2019; Prev. With the launch of the Ryzen 3000 series processors, we’ve noticed a distinct confusion among readers and viewers when it comes to the phrases “Precision Boost 2,” “XFR,” “Precision Boost Overdrive,” which is different from Precision Boost, and “AutoOC.” There is also a lot of confusion about what’s considered stock, what PBO even does or if it works at all, and how thermals impact frequency of Ryzen CPUs. We also have to include a caveat that we don’t think Ryzen 3000 processors are bad, and you can check our reviews for opinions on each SKU. The optimistic way to read this is that AMD is automatically pushing performance in a way that’s more sensitive and efficient than manual overclocking; the pessimistic way to read it is that it’s another variable out of control and an enormous pain for testing or comparative data, sort of like NVIDIA’s GPU Boost 4.0. Hier nochmal meine OBS Settings: x264 Preset: Medium Resolution 1536x864p (16x Bicubic Downscaling) (900p auch möglich) Bitrate 6000 Keyframe 2 Nochmal paar persönliche Tips:-Stream wenn möglich nicht über Twitch (Browser) schauen, falls ihr euren Stream nebenbei anschauen wollt - nutzt am besten die OBS Preview. This could be down to Gigabyte and we still need to replicate the behavior on other boards, but it’s bizarre either way. We’ll work on nailing down which setting is restricting the clocks to 4.2GHz with PBO enabled under LN2 and whether it occurs on other boards, but regardless of the verdict, we still haven’t discovered a single scenario in which PBO makes a meaningful difference in performance. We’re careful to use the same high-quality NZXT X62 liquid cooler on every CPU we test with the fans and pumps at max speed to avoid any throttling, eliminating the thermal variable, but if we weren’t or if a reviewer were less scrupulous, performance would be directly affected on Ryzen 3000 chips based on the cooler used. When you have set the value then go into Cinebench R20 and under "File" then "Preferences" set the "Minimum Test Duration" to 300 seconds. We found that manually maxing the PBO variables and allowing the motherboard to set them accomplished functionally the same thing, so for “max” tests we used the motherboard values. We didn’t bother running more synthetics than Cinebench for this content piece because PBO is supposed to be primarily beneficial to gaming and because the run-to-run variance with Precision Boost was starting to drive us insane; we demonstrated why in our livestream, but will work on another content piece separately to drive it home. So now you have the best of both worlds, a 12 Core/12 Thread "Profile 1" for gaming and a 12 Core/24 Thread "Profile 2" for production work where you need the extra threads. I have the latest bios from Asus site. Turning on PBO will increase the single-threaded performance of the 3900X by a few percent, scoring just slightly higher than the stock settings. AMD says the following of this: “At the limit, the processor will draw back on boost and dither the frequency until the situation changes. Cinebench R20 Multi-Core Scaling . If your system doesn’t crash and the temperature of the CPU stays below around 80 degrees then you should be able to use those settings in daily use. We have liquid nitrogen on hand, so it was easy for us to just dump some of it onto a 3900X and see what it would do under absolutely ideal conditions, stock or with PBO. However, it will allow your … Gigabyte has similar BIOS wording to Asrock and correct me if wrong but Gigabyte has PBO settings on 3 different places, which is confusing. Tweaker Enable xmp. The Single-Thread, which analyzes the single-core performance of the processor, showed a small improvement in speed both when turning “Precision Boost Overdrive” on and when enabling PBO + AutoOC. It also depends on the use case, so one couldn't really make a blanket statement. PBO is dependent on your setup (cooling mainly), so we can't really tell you. So which setting is it Auto or Enable, and if its not Auto then why, what does Auto do? Here are a couple excerpts. Motherboard manufacturers could triple PBO limits tomorrow (if they’re even the ones that control those numbers) and it wouldn’t make a difference based on what we’ve seen. 3600X have better behaviour with a EDC 6~8 setting. So the statement you are referring to on the part of AMD is a meaning of the word "safe" that I was heretofore completely unaware of. The AMD Ryzen 9 3900X offers more cores, more performance, and better efficiency than the competition, though it's a tad slower in games. Once It hit 1.325V or so on my processor, it stops boosting. (And ill upgrade my GPU soon) But shouldnt i still have a nice looking stream? Because AMD has no idea which processor you are using. Joined: 7 Apr 2017 Posts: 1,563. It has taken me this long to write this guide because I don't get free stuff sent to me so I had to wait until I was able to get hands on experience with this CPU and its two chiplet design. The improvement from PBO off to PBO/AutoOC on with the 3900X and a CLC on the MSI board was a whopping 2.4%, and 1.5% on air. Despite being a lightly threaded workload, it doesn’t seem that Total War benefits hugely from the 200MHz offset, but then again nothing else has either. There is a setting between 1x and 10x in the PBO. Adequate AIO cooling (Corsair H105) in a Lian Li PCO-11 case with fans top and bottom. This will run through the Cinebench test multiple times. On the MSI Godlike, the limits were: 1000W, 490A, and 630A. The frequency/cores/boost duration will still depend on the firmware-managed limits, even though those limits are higher than OEM when PBO has been enabled.” By this direction, enabling PBO and the offset make it more likely that the 3900X will maybe hit 4.8GHz on one core once in a while in Cinebench single-threaded benchmarks, and sometimes in extremely heavy all-core loads the CPU will run a little faster than it would with stock PPT/TDC/EDC limits, although the all-core load is barely affected by the 200MHz AutoOC offset in our testing (spoilers). CPU Cooler: EVGA CLC 360mm AIO w/ 3x120mm Corsair ML Pro R G B Fans. He knows me and was thus willing to allow me to use Teamviewer to access his system, and was willing to spend the time with me to allow me to do the job right (which took over six hours of configuring and testing). Thanks for the info. Vcore as reported by HWiNFO had a more obvious delta during the multithreaded test, holding to 1.24V average with PBO off and 1.3V average with PBO and AutoOC. Precision Boost is a finicky pain from a reviewer standpoint and a smart way to squeeze performance from an AMD (and maybe consumer) standpoint. PBO is explicitly different from Precision Boost and Precision Boost 2, which is where a lot of people get confused. 1. AMD PBO Bios Settings. Ryzen already has a built in silicon fitness monitoring feature (FIT) which prevents voltages that AMD feels would reduce the expected life of the processor. 3900X with NH-D15 running at 90C at stock PBO settings... Help (CPU) Hoping someone can offer some advice or insight on this:I've got a 3900X, on a Asus X570-E Strix board. The single core result for "Profile 2" was 480 which was exactly the same as using the Auto Overclock option on Ryzen Master, the big difference however it achieved that score at 1.3 Volts (whereas the Auto Overclock resulted in the CPU having 1.45 Volts shoved into it) and the PPT (CPU) value was at around 16% whereas with the Auto Overclock the PPT (CPU) wall all the way in the red at 100%For "Profile 1" the single core result was a bit over 490 (can't remember exactly) but again the voltage was at 1.3 Volts and the PPT was again at around 16%Especially with the single core results in Cinebench both Precision Boost Overdrive and Auto Overclocking options were punting ridiculous amounts of volts into the CPU for an inferior score.With regard to the all core results, with PBO and Auto Overclock the CPU had an all core boost of just a bit over 4.0 GHz and a score of 6385. From AMD: “this feature will not guarantee the higher boost clock on any number of cores. I have the latest bios from Asus site. When I run Cinebench R20, max boost speed I got for single core is around 4.3 at best temp around 65ish, never seen 4.5 or 4.6. Your single core score is lower than what i see (~520) which is expected since you are limited to 1.3V and a lower clockspeed. Currently using the AMD Ryzen … This is the CPU that took more than 1.4V to complete our tests at 4.3GHz all-core when then 3900X could manage the same at 1.35V; it’s also the model of CPU that AMD showed gaining the most points in single-threaded performance with PBO+AutoOC. Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Reddit WhatsApp. AMD’s reviewer guide says that the offset only applies to the max boost clock, but a chart later on clarifies that this is the max boost clock for any number of cores. As I said, in the 3000 series enabling PBO and auto-overclock doesn't do much as the CPU is already FIT bound. PC: MSI X470 GAMING PRO (MS-7B79), AMD Ryzen 9 3900X / PBO, MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Duke OC 11 GB, DDR4-3200 G-Skill Ripjaws V 16GB x 2, Corsair HX 750 i, Windows 10 Pro on CT500MX SSD, Prepar3d v4 on CT1000P m.2 SSD. That's the best way to know since everyone's silicon is different. Considering that most of their 3900x and 3950x CPUs run at 145W, … “Precision Boost” is not an abbreviation for “Precision Boost Overdrive,” it’s actually a different thing: Precision Boost is like XFR, AMD’s Extended Frequency Range boosting table for boosting a limited number of cores when possible. "Why would anyone trust the AMD document when AMD itself will not support that document in the form of a warranty in alignment with what is stated there? The worst result for the 3900X in F1 2018 was with the air cooler and PBO/AutoOC enabled; the best result was with a CLC and PBO turned off. The warranty tells me that AMD has absolutely no confidence in its statement with regard to the silicon fitness monitoring of its CPUs. Recently, we saw a bunch of Geekbench benchmarks of AMD’s Ryzen 5000 processors where the chips were able to boost past their rated boost frequency. You'll notice that the preset PBO settings (PBO Enabled) result in lower voltage and clocks frequencies with the Taichi. My suggested solutions for a reliable media workstation: Just live with the noise. While enabling PBO and auto-overclock is useless on the 3000 series due to FIT, the 2000 series will not be limited in that capacity. " Like you, I don't really find that they do anything for Ryzen 3000 series processors. Precision Boost OVERDRIVE and AutoOC are poorly named and poorly explained features that barely do anything and just serve to confuse the discussion. Is there 1.3V spec for high curent or low current loads? We ran a mix of Cinebench R15, Cinebench R20, and 1080p game tests. from there, do whatever manual OC you want, just don't go past that voltage unless you really know what risks you're taking. Allein das pbo on und -0,1 volt bringt bei mir mehr Punkte und auch 5-6 Grad Temperaturunterschied. I hope this now makes up for my tardiness. All of the 3900X results were gathered on the Gigabyte board. They just love extra clock speed.”, HW News - Cyberpunk 2077 Lawsuits, PlayStation 5 Sales Volume, NVIDIA RTX 3050 & Ti Rumors, HW News - RISC-V Core Designs, NVIDIA & Reviewers, 8GHz Intel CPU OC, HW News - AMD CPU Surge in Steam Survey, SAM for Z490, Intel Rocket Lake, HW News - NZXT "Safety Issue," GPU Availability, AMD MI100 GPU , NVIDIA A100 80GB. Results in a nice boost on my 5900X without me basically doing any manual settings (4950 MHz on single cores, 4650 MHz when using all cores to the max). Precision Boost is enabled on a stock CPU, Precision Boost Overdrive is not. By Usman Pirzada. Aug 8, 2019 #41 D. Dan_D Extremely [H] Joined Feb 9, 2002 Messages 57,338 . I personally haven't seen it, so I was curious if you could forward a copy. Please post a picture of your test results if you can or cannot get your 3900x to boost to 4.6 on any core. Posted on March 7, 2020 03:00 Categories Escape from Tarkov, Guides. 3900X have better behaviour with a EDC 12~18 setting. 3600 mem = 1800 in this menu. After you reboot you will have a straight 12 Core/12 Thread system. Setup> advanced mode. E.g. The score is typical of what I see if my processor isn't boosting at all, but just running 3.8GHz. Here is my PBO settings if you want to give it a try with your 3700X. In theory this offers the best of two worlds, allowing you to maintain high frequencies when few cores are loaded and a manually tuned overclock at all core loads. My results are as follow: ST: 497 MT: 7340 PBO settings are the default that came with my Taichi X570. 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